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Today’s topic is Child Themes or Starter Themes which is better? The topic was suggested to us by our own Suzette Franck.
Steve says it “Depends”
Sé talks about the differences between Child Themes and Starter Themes
Chris asks Sé about the differences of a child theme of 2012 and something like builder or Genesis
Sé states that Genesis has it’s own code base
Chris Ford says that one is just more complicated than the other
Alex brings up a point of “fighting the framework” and just starting from scratch.
Chris brings us back to “it depends” and shes noticing a design trend of all of the child themes are looking like Genesis
Chris mentioned Bill Erickson’s Starter Theme https://github.com/jaredatch/Genesis-Starter-Theme and having total creative control
Alex brings up the poiint that using a starter theme lets him use things like bootstrap where he feels he can’t do that with Genesis.
Wes talks about a few redesigns he’s done recently when dealing with underscores. He talks about a plugin he made that holds all the functionality for that site.
Steve says that with Underscores you are not suppose to make a child theme from it rather that is the theme. He asks how you can update the “code” of that theme.
Alex says that is the problem with starter themes.
Chris brings it back to Frameworks and why they exist, Steve says that child themes
Sé mentions Theme Check http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/theme-check/ for deprecated functions.
Steve talks about bloated code, he see that a few of the starter themes have some bloated code in there and you just don’t need.
Alex talks about underscores is a blank canvas.
Steve use to use Empty Canvas http://www.simplethemes.org/empty-canvas.php
Sé mentions Starkers http://viewportindustries.com/products/starkers/
Steve says a starter theme is for developers
Alex thinks that Genesis helped him with his CSS skills and how commented and organized it is.
Chris Lema asks Cody what he is doing, Cody puts down the CoD controller and says that he uses Genesis Child Themes but he recently used Standard from 8Bit http://standardtheme.com/
Jason asks Cody about his take on going from Genesis to Standard Theme
Cody replies about SEO and using plugins like Yoast SEO plugin to work with Standard Theme. He likes the esthetics and a fresher approach to their code.
Alex asks Cody how he felt about working with Standard vs working with Genesis
Chris Lema asked if he had to smoke a cigarette after using it.
Sé asks if Standard was made to be a Started theme or a framework, Cody and Chris Lema reply that you can create child themes with it and it can be used as a starter theme. Chris uses Catalyst on his ChrisLema.com site.
Sé talks about 2012 as a framework for child themes. It has based fonts and is responsiveness.
Alex says that these themes have best practices and he talks about theme templates and theme parts. get_template_part() is something that is used throughout.
Suzette has worked with 2011 a lot and talks about the undoing of lots of code to make it work for her. She likes 2012’s approach.
Wes talks about picking a theme and having is be well supported and secure.
Chris Ford talks about Genesis and how a client benefits from someone that sticks to one theme as a base and is able to find solutions to problems the client has quickly and easily.
Sé talks about how Genesis has a structured base.
Chris Ford talks about her attempts at doing a starter child theme for Genesis.
Wes announces is new theme framework called Mullet and how the dashboard is a party in the back end.
Chris Lema brings it back around with the merits of child themes and starter themes and when if you are starting out there may be other options such as option base frameworks or something can be configured from the back end.
Sé talks about premium themes and how a new person may want to go that route.
Chris Lema talks about the people that are having problems with spending money on a framework and they dont end up with a site like the examples show.
Jason closes the show out, thank yous all around.
Many thanks go out to the fine folks that were on this episode of WPwatercooler.
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