EP295 – Customizing WordPress Login – WPwatercooler

that right now Tucker this is Dave you water cooler absent number two ninety six well it's over three hundred we have an anniversary coming up we can ignore the times though milestone that we can you know they they they put these like fifty two weeks in the year it it just it we we can never figure out how to like do the math to to come up whether or not it was a whole year is it two years worth of is it a collection should we be doing this series is it the episode thing like you know what all the debate the decimal yeah sunny how the that's let's go hacks about it's a little bit about yourself yes %HESITATION Brian how may have plugins I sell and give away for free courses I'd still lots were press stuff %HESITATION in a podcast selling plugins podcasts with calmer right you're like and use it like getting well some a good to have you on Ryan good to have you on how are you doing now fire of Judah get also as you regular listeners know my first time here and I said to be a part of it %HESITATION bid work pressing since twenty twelve so fairly new to the scene %HESITATION but really just kinda the website some of the moderate area and kind of excited there was to be on the show you guys you have you have a lot of media behind you because that's like that's like one hard drives with the stuff he also right over here somewhere here yeah %HESITATION how bout this thirty two gig or what used well that %HESITATION shelf right there possible good to have you are do you know how bout you George is going on go I am doors of honest I work on jet pack for automatic alike buildings also Chinese and I'm currently packing for team made up down in Austin which I really should have thought to complete before I got on the call what I'm doing he gives exactly Hey I've got a ton of work first brand attacking cubes and I never use them so I am packing cute she loves the thank you so it I have a packing cubits call the suitcase thank you say this is our super woman on the show here she's in her %HESITATION phone booth over there and we were told to go and say yes to issue a stupor woman thank you walkers yeah she's got a job at a book for exactly and I right now all of because wasn't Superman changing in the phone booth now what I'm gonna do is not that kind of a show yeah yeah after dark when we get our crowd cast %HESITATION %HESITATION away that's what it is there's no no no we fight over that was towards come on I'm saying if they read get while I'm a teacher I am on a word press jag and I want to tell you this really funny storage real quick so right my business partner been so immersed to work right she like what the other day text me she goes I had it this is not an announcement by the way this is not a thing you can just FY I but she's like I had a dream you're pregnant and you name your baby good you can't do that I'm going to call it may be good for awhile to get started %HESITATION I just tweeted it stays Steve how's your pregnancy going birds one building right saying I am the founder of the directive I really see what press meet up towards having a brain for the spirit of the little baby goose because I Jason Tucker you have you ever just take on Twitter my website just taken a blog I a %HESITATION run the with your wordpress meet up and %HESITATION yes we do the show and we also do know the show over and if you water cooler for free to go take a look at that and to be people up all right so yeah we we five minutes talking about ourselves those pretty awesome good good good you did baby again that's not sorry it's whether you have done Facebook Facebook is already algorithm algorithms me algorithms me however read me I don't I don't know that that's a word in your thirties that's what you want to do I do want to say that this particular episode of debut water cooler is sponsored we accept a sponsor you're done yeah no no yeah I had to make that you know everyone got their stuff out so yeah bar we drop off so yep so desktop server over to repress dot com is sponsoring this episode so thank you very much for helping us out with that we really not I mean we hang out with mark with a cane to Morrow nice good good good %HESITATION great that's server gets thumbs up yeah it's not just because their sponsors but because it's a really great company and they have a really great product move more quickly they have excellent customer support yes they DO and it'll it'll be like eighty eight were well now it's like every time we mention something we're like pledges where it's like if you go around the the the thing X. every time you go around the thing will give you some dollars so it's like this is going to the back deals news to be like oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah we'll put you down for five Bucks no problem five hundred right here %HESITATION this drink is great all right Wayne's world get all Tim Hortons you now I make sure that Tim gets is it gets is in there and there's this lovely battery pack from that yeah robotics loses %HESITATION we're gonna talk about for the next twenty three minutes yeah desktop server and how it has changed my life see see them during the pre show brought up a topic we've never actually discussed before which is on my turn ways of being able to log in to wordpress and I I think it's an interesting topic to discuss a little bit %HESITATION you what she was using %HESITATION as she was she was %HESITATION talking earlier about using jet pack to be able to do those like and you want to kind of tell us all about that say and then %HESITATION George can tell you how awesome it is yeah well sometimes when you're working with the more %HESITATION beginner client %HESITATION having multiple log in is a problem at so specially obviously if using wordpress dot com you know that makes sense on its own but if you're using a self hosted wordpress and using jet pack which used to be and not just because George is here because it's actually really does look like in %HESITATION %HESITATION then %HESITATION you can use that technical sign on which %HESITATION gives %HESITATION access to this site via wordpress dot com logon and and then your client only has to remember one password instead of million password I I struggled a lot with them add quite getting really confused between their different log in so raging ginger passwords every sixty to ninety days that's almost yeah I just have to remember credentials for like ten different sites changing pattern all of them keeping them all unique RC having one shared log in system whether it's worse I com or Google or whatever that's fine Google can get you into some weird loops sometimes when you log and this is what I found with Google sign on %HESITATION like if you're not logged into the right email or if you're not like if you you know everyone's got twenty million emails or Google accounts are not logged in the right one it's like no you can never get in and then you can't you know so I've actually run into problems because we will find not and I've never used the book social finals because that can be that can be a pain something we are getting an echo her one thing we did see his we run our own log in our single sign on for %HESITATION with Google %HESITATION lost so we actually do you use are yeah you'll give me like why would you be willing to make his own forms and everything like see you back we have four for the time that he we have a we just have it so that we can %HESITATION we can easily get into any of our wordpress sites with %HESITATION with one for all our clients with one single with once I %HESITATION so it's for you not for the client is for me personally he built a back door to his client site no back to lose the least %HESITATION exits in our con each template called super secret that just logs in you mean when you come out so I am do you worry about how you're a client's log on at all or is it means you're talking about basically building yourself your own super adamant that you're just log you're able to log in when your life is it easy it is yeah it is %HESITATION what we do every clients with different and a lot of our clients are on the V. P. engine the pain and the payment of the engine is eight and I know this I know that sounds was not I have so many of them and W. P. engine at an estate than than that absolute with that I think that our pain or our biggest complaint of the clients is that they %HESITATION that we can't enforce their own strong password on top of the %HESITATION with the %HESITATION we're prestar password is right in so they complain about that quite a bit because there's no way around it now there's always a way around it bent out I have a it's called it's called the database access WPC alive I can't do that the way that we've gotten around the issue that she was talking about regarding using G. mail is %HESITATION %HESITATION I force everyone to use an account that uses our domain so they're all using our churches domain account and so they're able to log in using those email addresses so when they get a big list of all those emails there's the that list is actually truncated it's only down to just the ones that are in our domain so if somebody has multiple accounts then they get to pick between those the only within our our actual domain name so easily for your yeah yeah that's a nice because yourself for that noble so the the tool that we use is from it's called the the B. P. dash G. log in dot com and they have a whole suite that's kind of set up for it and I love it I mean this thing is is amazing because able are definitely out of the G. log and log and log in what you're saying is that the the V. P. do you log in suite is like pretty sweet sweet rate I was trying that in at the right time your comment about the G. yeah well what I like about it as well if you want to you can actually %HESITATION do other things like in bed you know Google docs and in bed list of files that are in a Google for Google docs folder and all that fun stuff but you also get like a a directory signet nice directory a list of all the people that are in the domain as well I know this is first there is somebody where if you can control all of that if you have a a client where they're just using their own you know email addresses all that fun stuff you kind of you can't do this sort of thing but when you can control everything it makes it pretty easy so if you allow sorry who's follow up today and do you allow your clients to use their site log in in addition to their global log in or is it only forced over to the global log in %HESITATION I force it to only our Google again so that way we don't have anybody trying to create their own accounts and I want to really make sure that only the people are allowed to be on there can be in there and when I when we hire and fire somebody %HESITATION we add them into the the G. sweet and then I can remove them from G. sweet and then they're not they're no longer able to access it how often you fire people us a question well okay I I give you an example of that so if you need for you know for instance for us like we have in turn so we'll have an intern that comes in the only work for like six weeks and then they leave well okay years or six weeks log in and you can use that then when you're done we we kicked out and you don't you're not alone and this and this is a concern for all my impress clients they always ask about this because they don't want any Loggins or data sideload anywhere so if you're working on a wordpress site in a press clients are going to want you to use their single sign on so for this exact reason the chase is talking about because when somebody leaves they don't want them to have access to any of their systems and you also need to worry about the fact that if the person still has the dashboard open and then they were to go click on something they could potentially still be logged and even though they technically don't have an account %HESITATION or their account was suspended or you just changed its password no essentially going in and having to like blow out and reset all the salts and reset all the everything just to kind of clear the deck and make sure that they're not able to stay logged in is a big concern as well criminal work with %HESITATION were pressed are going what is work with wordpress you build your lord today wait all day to do so I have a question about your IT systems that y'all built above you and Jason and member out obviously and so what do you do for if you're using at all what would you do for a Klondike bar eight what do you do about the landing page that happened after log it so what are is that dashboard for you guys or is that are you directing them to what what what is what is that next step and see are you using your log on %HESITATION to change that if you're changing it or are you saying something I'll take your answers on well that would be good because we don't really have time to answer all of them from everyone for all the exact same things in the minutes we have left for a it for all of you it's Klondike bar is come up and down and run around maybe so so for me %HESITATION I I don't want my users to be in the password because that that any type of things that they're doing on the site is all on the front end and when that say for instance on our internet %HESITATION our internet's built with wordpress we use log log ins through that %HESITATION and so having that they just go into the into the internet and they're on the main homepage of the site %HESITATION but I'm blocking the ability for anybody to access that site by using a couple different plugins a kind of check to see whether or not somebody's trying to log in or not and then if they are or so trying to go on to the website put lump them over to the log in screen %HESITATION on our normal website %HESITATION we have them go to a special page where they just have a few different boxes that they can kind of fill and using gravity forms to build a kind of %HESITATION fill in the forms to build the postings on the site how are you routing them there I'm so I'm using a plugin made by the same company called all in one entry I'm all in one internet that will do the routing for you so it'll force everybody to go through this route if I want them to on the internet site on the main website I think I'm using another it's like white label C. about us to do that sort of thing as well so I put in the show notes to other plans that we've used in the past one is the next and %HESITATION social long in right allows you to do log in with Facebook Google and Twitter %HESITATION we use a specific for Facebook Twitter the passwords for mostly it also scales right there is the %HESITATION the regular Facebook long and I can't remember exactly why but there's anything has been a few years did there was a scalability problem with it I think right now I think there was a conflict with the caching solutions that engine argues is %HESITATION and so there is that that playing is next and has a way around it so I would I would use that you're gonna put in place is the sample collection from many orange so if you are dealing with a larger place like that you something use something like Microsoft active directory that's how to integrate with %HESITATION with wordpress in the single sign on I know this is I will lose my mind did did not of stuff that you have to pull that one off is is fine these these things exist these things exist the thing I yeah those you you do digital downloads I guess it's just example if you want to customize when someone like sand where the re direct %HESITATION that's got a couple conditions he that they have something on the cart okay put into the check of because you want to buy you know %HESITATION Hey are the men okay taken too so %HESITATION yeah so you can look at the code you can customize okay with add that's with Adlai me this is an example of the log and re direct are filtered by yep that's in the V. D. N. A. R. yeah yeah I wish you you mentioned a very plug like but you're you're one of my many plugins that I stole from somebody else the courts that yeah okay so there's some single side so we're not going to talk about the V. P. %HESITATION five point no we have talked about that you're not born about it yeah I'm like did you want to say something else about getting broken just like wow is two weeks I still don't know what's going I guess they were talking about it I've been following really closely on my core %HESITATION than the slack %HESITATION like following the V. thankfully twenty nineteen is looking good good twenty night team get in there I'm very applauding them because they have for really working really hard not one of my friend been on and you can commit go brown I mean what what I also %HESITATION just the core just watching the track %HESITATION the slack and all the stuff is happening and there's like like been a couple little like many skirmishes like this is the most interesting time to travel and they're constantly just like everyone's talking it's like it's like madness is like a sprinter should it should it should you be describing the thing that's going to get pushed to millions of users it's like bad like so say talks about as it's a very a very exciting thing but but George hasn't said anything about how exciting it is that's like is being very %HESITATION busy could you comment on that George is it does work for you is that free was frozen or if he's just like I was listening like how is that for you George like for me with at work when when things are really busy people are running back and forth into the between offices talking to each other in the hallways are going crazy the slack always for you how how is that I mean are you seeing that people are busy running around doing all the things or they don't buy it can be %HESITATION depends I mean I mean even at the moment I'm probably at the moment I'm in probably about fifty separate channels so there's not really one main hallway channel that you get to see a run dashing between channels or anything so armed if something isn't running two things I'm actually focusing on a joint on say it on some anyway excellent okay think like focused on metal yeah I can actually I mean this is much distraction it is is also great at leading the focus because I can just ignore slack as an entirety and work on what I've got in front of me is all I just see it as me looking at the mail it mail server and watching all the emails go through and I'm waiting for the ones that relate to me but that that that I I I can't I can't remember what else is over so well I mean it's like it's supposed to replace email so the fact that you're seeing these people send messages to each other but you never actually fully looking at it slang is a poster he's supposed to supposed to replace emails says who has black but for us it more replaced like I. R. C. R. and raise cotton what nine yeah well they bought hip chat but that's a separate issue no me with prior to moving to slack five years ago automatic was primarily on I RC with Izzy and see proxy to it so that like if you were disconnected you still get messages that waiting for you when you reconnect and it worked but it didn't have all the pretty emoji and Jeff in beds and what not sell us like it was really yeah I'm at I told them %HESITATION and the mobile apps really which need to smoothly transfer form and run everything on the multiple platforms is what does it's huge and we had a question rob black **** LOL with the demos genius question that ever existed announcer yeah that's fair I what I didn't really did everyone finish telling me about what they use to re route after log in because that's actually something I really want to know that I I would I would definitely look into the code the brain posted it looks it looks like it would take care of most of those most of those issues that you're having that kind of a dress there's a plugin called %HESITATION hall hall called London redirect or something like that %HESITATION that is very %HESITATION is it pop all I should be my plug ins of so many all along and you great Brian's forks plugin number one Brian's for like the numbers you George and you're like no sorry you can't check G. now you say you Love Me I think they Peter Peter not policy got a rob Peter do you see it's not me I don't have a really my point is here so that allows or %HESITATION redirect on log in big east on user role which is obviously very useful %HESITATION but I am using membership account and %HESITATION membership accounts are not the same thing as user roles %HESITATION so there isn't what I've been able to find for that so I've been doing research really I was just trying to make my Google can you just find a whatever that little bit of code to be like %HESITATION what how do you get the member role and then just the F. member all equals this forever home I'm gonna send you a quick email and then you one time I was I think I think he just wrote the code on there limit written all this your call is at the end of each of his statements I I want to make sure that we're in elation what you do is go in membership plug in and figure out what the role of the account well yeah excess your %HESITATION your %HESITATION your credit thank you and I volunteered that during the shows were good %HESITATION your mind you know totally covered you know I I really wish the show had more chemistry it's so sad that none of us know how to like have a good laugh at it actually talk to each other anything having said that I want you know you completely ruined because the three others of the we don't have a dinner with the family there with their phones out going like that's cool do you have watch the video it's really funny what like that while we're around the table you know we need to deal with that we need to have the airing of grievances in the feats of strength this poll okay will launch of little many festivals all these are my Christmas presents to people his presence at for the record I think you should have a website that sells those you can George's festivus polls dot com George goals dot com or anything else I hear there's a main that's all available now %HESITATION cold like that he or something because %HESITATION why not you know the little plugs at Starbucks things right ones would like all that's really not environmentally friendly we should make that metal versions of that yeah I'd recommend you not type into Amazon metal plucks I need I'm doing it right now not that I want to talk real quick though about George we only have a couple seconds and minutes whatever and pulled the the names which a bowl Daddy you know obviously that came out and I I actually commented on a W. P. tavern Catholic article which like I don't even never do that like why would I do think the countdown then it's like I am it was like that you know people are like old that's silly that they changed the name why would anyone care about the name that so then that's a promise that I will excuse me I specifically never use that plugin specifically because the name out there you go do you look at it so the fact that they changed the name like one another we can link that says hold I was the name for so long and that people were like after they were like that might be offensive people now %HESITATION I do we have so one of the largest pull right now I can make you real quick you know sometimes the dads can't actually like the problem with my brother he's like such a decoder and you like tell to make website you I don't know how did you a square space site for George that he can sell as polls on there without actually having to have an S. itself can be pretty awesome George you get it you can have that done in like three minutes we can hear you now because I write to bar bye bye to die and you're gonna have really simple PayPal based holes that will be great just in time for Christmas I'm sure there's no trademark on faster this no not very high strength to weight ratio Hey well I will see you all for sharing your grievances I really appreciate it makes our go to our website I did you work for a call but you know we only service of scribe if you want to check out our own or sponsor site you can go take a look at that over over at a desktop server over its own really fresh and the guys you have a good one sponsored George's pulls back on this