On this episode Jason Tucker, Sé Reed, and Jason Cosper will be speaking with Nyasha Green and Courtney Robertson about WordCamp Asia, the recent WordCamp they both attended in Bangkok.
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EP446 – WordCamp Asia Brings the Heat
Jason Tucker
February 24, 2023
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Episode Transcription
Speakers:
Sé Reed: 4.84%
Jason Tucker: 14.33%
Jason Cosper: 14.12%
Nyasha G: 24.85%
Courtney Robertson: 41.87%
Sé Reed:[00:00:00]
Hit it. Hit it.
Jason Tucker:[00:00:08]
This is episode number 446 of WPwatercooler Word Camp Asia brings the heat. I’m Jason Tucker. You find me at Jason Tucker dot blog. Feel free to go over there and take a look at that.
Sé Reed:[00:00:27]
I’m say Reid. Uh, my business is kerredyn.com. That’s a fun one. I’m Sé Reed Media on all the
Jason Cosper:[00:00:33]
And y’all who it’s Jason, the large language model, back at it again, WordPress.
Jason Tucker:[00:00:41]
Speaking of those podcasts, go listen to us. Go over Apple Podcasts, audible, wherever it is. You can find them and you can go hang out with us over on Discord.
Sé Reed:[00:00:50]
We’re the chat og. I just thought of
Jason Tucker:[00:00:55]
it going folks?
Sé Reed:[00:00:56]
Wait, what happened to being the large language model
Jason Cosper:[00:01:01]
I mean, I’m, I, am I things I contain multitudes.
Sé Reed:[00:01:07]
Like, it’s wild. Um, anyway, now that we know whoever that guy is, we have guests today. Um, now have you been on the show?
Nyasha G:[00:01:16]
No, this is my first time.
Jason Cosper:[00:01:18]
What
Sé Reed:[00:01:18]
so funny. I, uh, I just, you’re just in my life now, so I’m just like, oh, you know, you’ve been here, right? Uh uh, please introduce yourself. Welcome.
Nyasha G:[00:01:29]
Hello. Hello, I am Naisha. I am the editorial director at Master W P, and I am a software developer or WordPress developer at Howard Development and Consultant. And nice to meet y’all.
Jason Tucker:[00:01:41]
Yay.
Sé Reed:[00:01:43]
And then we have, wait, the illustrious, Courtney,
Courtney Robertson:[00:01:49]
Hey, so yeah, I’m averaging hanging out with WPwatercooler, like one in three episodes. I don’t know, I’m, I could be a good substitute, per se, something.
Sé Reed:[00:01:58]
always angling for a job here.
Courtney Robertson:[00:02:00]
I know, I gotta try.
Jason Tucker:[00:02:01]
Sorry, say that again.
Courtney Robertson:[00:02:02]
uh oh. Oh, hey. So So, um, I, I get to do some amazing things with the wonderful say Reid. Over at the W P ccc, we are working on funding contributors.
Nyasha G:[00:03:49]
I, I’ve been to a lot of tech conferences, but I haven’t been to a lot of work camps, so Yeah. Yeah. Work camp US was my first one. Um, but I have been to a lot of different tech conferences. That was the best tech conference I’ve ever been to. Um, I, I hate to say like it’s the best work camp cause I’ve only been to us.
Jason Tucker:[00:04:25]
That’s awesome.
Courtney Robertson:[00:04:26]
So I had the honor of going and I say honor because I’ve contributed on various WordPress make teams, the 21 teams that make WordPress. I’ve contributed with some people that are now very close personal friends of mine for going on three years, you know, since the beginning of pandemic when I started contributing again. and it was just an honor to spend time in person with some of my, my friends that are there, because a lot of times they face visa issues that they can’t get to Europe even, or the US certainly. Um, some of our India friends are unable to get a Visa to the US because it’s like a 900 day wait period. So it is really important for the APAC community to have an international flagship event like this.
Nyasha G:[00:06:14]
I tried. I tried a little bit,
Courtney Robertson:[00:06:16]
yeah, yeah.
Jason Tucker:[00:06:18]
It’s party central.
Courtney Robertson:[00:06:22]
Uh,
Nyasha G:[00:06:24]
I like
Courtney Robertson:[00:06:24]
word camp every day, attire. Yeah. Yeah,
Nyasha G:[00:06:28]
the, like the dashiki, west African print. Like with the top. Yeah. It was really nice. I looked good. Not just letting you
Courtney Robertson:[00:06:35]
it was, I got to sip and I for a little bit. It was great.
Nyasha G:[00:06:43]
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Robertson:[00:06:46]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[00:06:47]
that’s smart.
Courtney Robertson:[00:06:48]
Yeah. So then, then a lot of the typical cultural dances that you would see at general celebrations within their home nations, they were all doing during the after party dance party. And I tell you that the Asian folks know how to. Group dance, I think better than any of the other after party camps.
Jason Tucker:[00:07:28]
That’s smart.
Nyasha G:[00:07:49]
send it to you. I have it on my Instagram. Yeah. I have a video on my Instagram.
Courtney Robertson:[00:07:53]
Robbie McCullough also has a couple good videos that he posted on his Twitter account. Robbie is with Beaver Builder, one of the.
Nyasha G:[00:09:32]
you wanna go first?
Courtney Robertson:[00:09:34]
No,
Nyasha G:[00:09:34]
I can go. I didn’t know.
Courtney Robertson:[00:09:35]
Now you cover it.
Nyasha G:[00:09:38]
Um, I, I did hear a little bit of that. Um, one of the biggest things, well, would it be one or two? Two of the biggest things. Um. Was one once you brought up with about the Visa requirements, but also it was that I was just going on about how while I was there, it’s so wonderful.
Jason Tucker:[00:10:58]
awesome.
Courtney Robertson:[00:11:00]
I got a chance to spend some more time, um, briefly with Naoko and John, who I know both from sitting next to them during the after party in 2015 for work camp us. Um, Naoko is an Aian. John works at Human Made. , both are very active contributors. Sam Delotz John is over in the Docs team. And um, you know, they both just had such pride and I felt such pride from a lot of the local folks there that they got to host the event.
Jason Cosper:[00:14:01]
Yeah. Now, now Courtney, you, you mentioned they, they brought 75 people, so this sounds, uh, quite a bit larger than Word Camp US was for, I, I know that that was kind of a reduced camp size. Like how many people would you say were at Word Camp Asia, uh, Courtney and Naisha, either one. Feel free to take that.
Courtney Robertson:[00:14:23]
So in my, um, Roundup post, NY and I both have. Some recap posts and we’ll, we’ll give links to those things, I
Jason Tucker:[00:14:30]
Links in
Courtney Robertson:[00:14:31]
Um, yeah. But in there, there’s the stats and I think there were little over 17,000 tickets purchased and 1,299 attendees in person. We were missing one to bump it up to 1,300. And Naoko said that that one missing was Matt
Jason Cosper:[00:15:12]
Matt, Matt wasn’t the only person that joined y’all through Zoom. I know that for contributor days, there was also kind of a remote component there as well.
Courtney Robertson:[00:15:24]
let’s, yeah. was online workshops. Yeah, so we have these, we have online workshops unlearn, and those are like a meetup with a Zoom. There’s a meetup group with a Zoom, and they show up in most people’s WordPress and dashboards. And that’s how people find out what’s going on. And different people host them different languages, time slots, et cetera.
Jason Tucker:[00:16:03]
the dashboard thing is like a massive thing for even like the local meetups. It was huge. So for having something like that and in a grander scale for this, is it, it’s, it’s, it’s like the perfect way to, to kind of spread the word.
Courtney Robertson:[00:16:18]
Yeah, and I’ll turn it over to say, to share about the rest of the online contributor experience because say was the one I tend to get online. Yeah. So. , there was like seven, seven, m, and eight, and I was sprinting between the two of them, um, opposite sides of the building with bronchitis, uh, because I love helping people with all of this. So I let the both teams get their people onboarded for like set up your accounts and then came back and it was right after lunch that we got into. The marketing team, Yvette and I coordinated together. Yvette works at Yost. We have coordinated for Yo’s versions of contributor days online during the pandemic to start helping the marketing team create the social media content that promotes learn on wordpress.org candles. And that’s something that will help new contributors see what this content is.
Nyasha G:[00:18:46]
Courtney was amazing. Like if you, like, if she didn’t cough, you wouldn’t have known she was sick. Like she was like, yeah, I’m a little sick, but I’m gonna go do this. I’m gonna do that. Hey, how you doing? I wanna do this, I’m gonna do that. I was like, Uhhuh, like she, she is amazing.
Jason Cosper:[00:19:04]
I was, I was gonna say between Courtney, between uh, Michelle Farha, between, uh, these handful of people who are, are just all over the damn place. Like really, uh, you know, shout shoutouts there cuz it’s . Yeah. It’s, it’s a lot of effort and it’s really admirable the amount of effort that, that folks like y’all put in.
Nyasha G:[00:21:11]
I have two. Um, first of all, the speaker where the, the speaker rooms, the speaker setup was incredible. I thought I was at a TED Talk. It was so professional. Everything was so nice. I’m looking at my pictures like, oh my God, I look like I was like watching celebrities or something. And then I saw a drone one time.
Courtney Robertson:[00:21:36]
Yes. Oh.
Nyasha G:[00:21:39]
Oh, wow.
Jason Tucker:[00:21:40]
it. That’s, yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[00:21:42]
I didn’t realize the audio was coming from that.
Nyasha G:[00:21:46]
well it looked cool. It looked cool. Yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[00:21:53]
Yep.
Nyasha G:[00:21:54]
Yeah, it was, no, it’s fun. Like that was amazing. And like I, it’s gonna sound weird, but I felt more into the speeches because I felt like I was in like a really cool place and I felt like important. Like I, they told me to stop saying that at work. They’re like, you are important. But I felt very important and it was just great.
Jason Tucker:[00:23:17]
So speak.
Nyasha G:[00:23:21]
Taiwan.
Jason Tucker:[00:23:22]
Hmm.
Nyasha G:[00:23:24]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[00:23:25]
Wow.
Courtney Robertson:[00:23:26]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[00:23:27]
So speaking of non WordPress, parts of the word camp, Wha what about the food? How did that go?
Courtney Robertson:[00:23:40]
I will say Thai restaurants in America tend, tend to be fairly authentic, but the flavor is next level. When you get a pad Thai or ma on curry directly from a restaurant inside of Thailand in Bangkok, the food was just fantastic. I still, because of the, you know, the cold and things. , I still went for American version of heat, not Thai heat.
Nyasha G:[00:24:48]
It was so good. Like that was the be again, I’m, I’m like not being paid to say this, like they didn’t pay me. That was the best conference food I ever had. There was like ro, I had like roasted chicken with like sweets and like rice. Sticky rice and like someone had like duck. And then like the dietary restrictions.
Courtney Robertson:[00:25:26]
easy to live gluten free there to
Nyasha G:[00:25:28]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it. Not, not to me. So I’m, I like, I like a lot of spicy foods, so not to me, but like I had breakfast noodles and like I put the Thai spice all over it and I was like fighting for my life, but it was so delicious. So I was like at breakfast, like sweating and like my eyes were red and like my husband came with me.
Courtney Robertson:[00:25:59]
I am just hot.
Nyasha G:[00:26:00]
like, yeah, I actually brought some spices back with me, so yeah, part two coming soon. Mm-hmm.
Courtney Robertson:[00:26:13]
Yes, I was not.
Nyasha G:[00:26:16]
I was not there, but I watched it online.
Courtney Robertson:[00:26:47]
A little bit later. I don’t remember the person asking the question. I don’t think that was in Milan’s. In Milan’s question. She was asking again about Let’s get contributors funded. And I was thinking WP CCC we’re working on that. Um, but when it came to the, the rollout of the redesign, so we saw.org got a redesign and then slash news got it.
Jason Cosper:[00:29:32]
Yeah, I, I was gonna say, I was gonna say my, my spicy take is I think that Matt is used to having a thousand some odd employees that he can direct at a problem and get it fixed and get it done and, uh, you know, redesigned. Whereas because the project is on a contributor and volunteer basis, um, things have just gotta be a little slower, like right. I, I, I just, I think that. , I understand, uh, why He probably just wants to see the whole thing redesigned and hell, if he wants to, uh, sync some of that, the, the employee resources that he has over at Automatic into this to, uh, to help push that along, uh, please do so. Um, but, uh, I mean, unless you’re, you’re gonna pony up then, uh,
Jason Tucker:[00:30:54]
Since, since we’re going into a little bit of an overtime here, real quick, uh, I did wanna bring up something here. So, um, in the chat, uh, nomad Skateboarding was talking about how um, Michelle is doing a selfie hashtag and I wanted to bring that up real quick here and show you folks cuz it was, um, It was a pretty, it was a pretty epic like, kind of way of, of making, making things happen.
Courtney Robertson:[00:31:51]
it was matched. She
Jason Tucker:[00:31:54]
so cool.
Courtney Robertson:[00:31:55]
was amazing. Yep,
Jason Tucker:[00:31:57]
So cool.
Courtney Robertson:[00:31:58]
yep.
Nyasha G:[00:31:59]
She is the best.
Jason Tucker:[00:32:01]
That is, it is the power of community. It’s so cool.
Courtney Robertson:[00:32:05]
Okay. I’m showing off the swag real quick while we’re going to outros. I think here there’s some stickers. NA’s got wpu. I got a little postcard, another postcard. There’s the, this is a pin staff here? Yes. That
Nyasha G:[00:32:26]
Wigan Wigans.
Courtney Robertson:[00:32:28]
there’s the scarf, that’s the scar. Group of wuss when we have like, you know, a whole flock. It’s not a flock of wuss. I don’t know what it’s, I know, yeah,
Jason Tucker:[00:32:42]
Oh man.
Nyasha G:[00:32:44]
Wigans. Wigans. I
Courtney Robertson:[00:32:46]
that was official swag. I’ve got more.
Jason Tucker:[00:32:49]
That’s it.
Courtney Robertson:[00:32:50]
That was official swag. I’ve got more, but we don’t need it today.
Jason Tucker:[00:32:54]
Yay. Yes. Yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[00:33:28]
L. Less jet lag involved and germs, less germs. That too.
Jason Tucker:[00:33:35]
Well, yeah, like SA said, thank you very much for coming, hanging out with us. We really appreciate it. For, uh, the folks at home that are watching, uh, click the little share button. The little like button. We’d really appreciate it. We, we’d love to have more folks come hanging out with us. Nah, we’re not smashing.
Sé Reed:[00:34:13]
Hit it. Hit it.
Jason Tucker:[00:34:22]
This is episode number 446 of W WPwatercooler Word Camp Asia brings the heat. I’m Jason Tucker. You find me at Jason Tucker dot blog. Feel free to go over there and take a look at that.
Sé Reed:[00:34:41]
I’m say Reid. Uh, my business is@carin.com. That’s a fun one. I’m say Reid Media on all the
Jason Cosper:[00:34:47]
And y’all who it’s Jason, the large language model, back at it again, WordPress.
Jason Tucker:[00:34:55]
Speaking of those podcasts, go listen to us. Go over Apple Podcasts, audible, wherever it is. You can find them and you can go hang out with us over on Discord.
Sé Reed:[00:35:03]
We’re the chat og. I just thought of
Jason Tucker:[00:35:09]
it going folks?
Sé Reed:[00:35:10]
Wait, what happened to being the large language model
Jason Cosper:[00:35:15]
I mean, I’m, I, am I things I contain multitudes.
Sé Reed:[00:35:21]
Like, it’s wild. Um, anyway, now that we know whoever that guy is, we have guests today. Um, now have you been on the show?
Nyasha G:[00:35:30]
No, this is my first time.
Jason Cosper:[00:35:32]
What
Sé Reed:[00:35:32]
so funny. I, uh, I just, you’re just in my life now, so I’m just like, oh, you know, you’ve been here, right? Uh uh, please introduce yourself. Welcome.
Nyasha G:[00:35:43]
Hello. Hello, I am Naisha. I am the editorial director at Master W P, and I am a software developer or WordPress developer at Howard Development and Consultant. And nice to meet y’all.
Jason Tucker:[00:35:55]
Yay.
Sé Reed:[00:35:57]
And then we have, wait, the illustrious, Courtney,
Courtney Robertson:[00:36:03]
Hey, so yeah, I’m averaging hanging out with WPwatercooler, like one in three episodes. I don’t know, I’m, I could be a good substitute, per se, something.
Sé Reed:[00:36:12]
always angling for a job here.
Courtney Robertson:[00:36:14]
I know, I gotta try.
Jason Tucker:[00:36:15]
Sorry, say that again.
Courtney Robertson:[00:36:16]
uh oh. Oh, hey. So So, um, I, I get to do some amazing things with the wonderful say Reid. Over at the W P ccc, we are working on funding contributors.
Nyasha G:[00:38:03]
I, I’ve been to a lot of tech conferences, but I haven’t been to a lot of work camps, so Yeah. Yeah. Work camp US was my first one. Um, but I have been to a lot of different tech conferences. That was the best tech conference I’ve ever been to. Um, I, I hate to say like it’s the best work camp cause I’ve only been to us.
Jason Tucker:[00:38:39]
That’s awesome.
Courtney Robertson:[00:38:40]
So I had the honor of going and I say honor because I’ve contributed on various WordPress make teams, the 21 teams that make WordPress. I’ve contributed with some people that are now very close personal friends of mine for going on three years, you know, since the beginning of pandemic when I started contributing again.
Nyasha G:[00:40:28]
I tried. I tried a little bit,
Courtney Robertson:[00:40:30]
yeah, yeah.
Jason Tucker:[00:40:32]
It’s party central.
Courtney Robertson:[00:40:36]
Uh,
Nyasha G:[00:40:38]
I like
Courtney Robertson:[00:40:38]
word camp every day, attire. Yeah. Yeah,
Nyasha G:[00:40:42]
the, like the dashiki, west African print. Like with the top. Yeah. It was really nice. I looked good. Not just letting you
Courtney Robertson:[00:40:49]
it was, I got to sip and I for a little bit. It was great.
Nyasha G:[00:40:57]
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Robertson:[00:40:59]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[00:41:00]
that’s smart.
Courtney Robertson:[00:41:02]
Yeah. So then, then a lot of the typical cultural dances that you would see at general celebrations within their home nations, they were all doing during the after party dance party. And I tell you that the Asian folks know how to. Group dance, I think better than any of the other after party camps.
Jason Tucker:[00:41:42]
That’s smart.
Nyasha G:[00:42:03]
send it to you. I have it on my Instagram. Yeah. I have a video on my Instagram.
Courtney Robertson:[00:42:07]
Robbie McCullough also has a couple good videos that he posted on his Twitter account. Robbie is with Beaver Builder, one of the.
Nyasha G:[00:43:46]
you wanna go first?
Courtney Robertson:[00:43:48]
No,
Nyasha G:[00:43:48]
I can go. I didn’t know.
Courtney Robertson:[00:43:49]
Now you cover it.
Nyasha G:[00:43:52]
Um, I, I did hear a little bit of that. Um, one of the biggest things, well, would it be one or two? Two of the biggest things. Um. Was one once you brought up with about the Visa requirements, but also it was that I was just going on about how while I was there, it’s so wonderful.
Jason Tucker:[00:45:12]
awesome.
Courtney Robertson:[00:45:14]
I got a chance to spend some more time, um, briefly with Naoko and John, who I know both from sitting next to them during the after party in 2015 for work camp us. Um, Naoko is an Aian. John works at Human Made. , both are very active contributors. Sam Delotz John is over in the Docs team. And um, you know, they both just had such pride and I felt such pride from a lot of the local folks there that they got to host the event.
Jason Cosper:[00:48:15]
Yeah. Now, now Courtney, you, you mentioned they, they brought 75 people, so this sounds, uh, quite a bit larger than Word Camp US was for, I, I know that that was kind of a reduced camp size. Like how many people would you say were at Word Camp Asia, uh, Courtney and Naisha, either one. Feel free to take that.
Courtney Robertson:[00:48:37]
So in my, um, Roundup post, NY and I both have. Some recap posts and we’ll, we’ll give links to those things, I
Jason Tucker:[00:48:44]
Links in
Courtney Robertson:[00:48:45]
Um, yeah. But in there, there’s the stats and I think there were little over 17,000 tickets purchased and 1,299 attendees in person. We were missing one to bump it up to 1,300. And Naoko said that that one missing was Matt Soko shared that right from the stage. Oh. Just, just, yeah. Matt was, Matt at the last minute had to come in and join us via Zoom. Um, so we accommodated that. So we would’ve had 1,300 there if Matt had been able to join us in person. So
Jason Cosper:[00:49:26]
Matt, Matt wasn’t the only person that joined y’all through Zoom. I know that for contributor days, there was also kind of a remote component there as well.
Courtney Robertson:[00:49:38]
let’s, yeah. was online workshops. Yeah, so we have these, we have online workshops unlearn, and those are like a meetup with a Zoom. There’s a meetup group with a Zoom, and they show up in most people’s WordPress and dashboards. And that’s how people find out what’s going on. And different people host them different languages, time slots, et cetera.
Jason Tucker:[00:50:17]
the dashboard thing is like a massive thing for even like the local meetups. It was huge. So for having something like that and in a grander scale for this, is it, it’s, it’s, it’s like the perfect way to, to kind of spread the word.
Courtney Robertson:[00:50:32]
Yeah, and I’ll turn it over to say, to share about the rest of the online contributor experience because say was the one I tend to get online. Yeah. So. , there was like seven, seven, m, and eight, and I was sprinting between the two of them, um, opposite sides of the building with bronchitis, uh, because I love helping people with all of this. So I let the both teams get their people onboarded for like set up your accounts and then came back and it was right after lunch that we got into. The marketing team, Yvette and I coordinated together. Yvette works at Yost. We have coordinated for Yo’s versions of contributor days online during the pandemic to start helping the marketing team create the social media content that promotes learn on wordpress.org candles. And that’s something that will help new contributors see what this content is.
Nyasha G:[00:53:00]
Courtney was amazing. Like if you, like, if she didn’t cough, you wouldn’t have known she was sick. Like she was like, yeah, I’m a little sick, but I’m gonna go do this. I’m gonna do that. Hey, how you doing? I wanna do this, I’m gonna do that. I was like, Uhhuh, like she, she is amazing.
Jason Cosper:[00:53:18]
I was, I was gonna say between Courtney, between uh, Michelle Farha, between, uh, these handful of people who are, are just all over the damn place. Like really, uh, you know, shout shoutouts there cuz it’s . Yeah. It’s, it’s a lot of effort and it’s really admirable the amount of effort that, that folks like y’all put in.
Nyasha G:[00:55:25]
I have two. Um, first of all, the speaker where the, the speaker rooms, the speaker setup was incredible. I thought I was at a TED Talk. It was so professional. Everything was so nice. I’m looking at my pictures like, oh my God, I look like I was like watching celebrities or something. And then I saw a drone one time.
Courtney Robertson:[00:55:50]
Yes. Oh.
Nyasha G:[00:55:53]
Oh, wow.
Jason Tucker:[00:55:54]
it. That’s, yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[00:55:56]
I didn’t realize the audio was coming from that.
Nyasha G:[00:55:59]
well it looked cool. It looked cool. Yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[00:56:07]
Yep.
Nyasha G:[00:56:07]
Yeah, it was, no, it’s fun. Like that was amazing. And like I, it’s gonna sound weird, but I felt more into the speeches because I felt like I was in like a really cool place and I felt like important. Like I, they told me to stop saying that at work. They’re like, you are important. But I felt very important and it was just great.
Jason Tucker:[00:57:31]
So speak.
Nyasha G:[00:57:35]
Taiwan.
Jason Tucker:[00:57:36]
Hmm.
Nyasha G:[00:57:38]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[00:57:39]
Wow.
Courtney Robertson:[00:57:40]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[00:57:41]
So speaking of non WordPress, parts of the word camp, Wha what about the food? How did that go?
Courtney Robertson:[00:57:54]
I will say Thai restaurants in America tend, tend to be fairly authentic, but the flavor is next level. When you get a pad Thai or ma on curry directly from a restaurant inside of Thailand in Bangkok, the food was just fantastic. I still, because of the, you know, the cold and things. , I still went for American version of heat, not Thai heat.
Nyasha G:[00:59:02]
It was so good. Like that was the be again, I’m, I’m like not being paid to say this, like they didn’t pay me. That was the best conference food I ever had. There was like ro, I had like roasted chicken with like sweets and like rice. Sticky rice and like someone had like duck. And then like the dietary restrictions.
Courtney Robertson:[00:59:40]
easy to live gluten free there to
Nyasha G:[00:59:42]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it.
Courtney Robertson:[01:00:13]
I am just hot.
Nyasha G:[01:00:14]
like, yeah, I actually brought some spices back with me, so yeah, part two coming soon. Mm-hmm.
Courtney Robertson:[01:00:27]
Yes, I was not.
Nyasha G:[01:00:30]
I was not there, but I watched it online.
Courtney Robertson:[01:01:01]
A little bit later. I don’t remember the person asking the question. I don’t think that was in Milan’s. In Milan’s question. She was asking again about Let’s get contributors funded. And I was thinking WP CCC we’re working on that. Um, but when it came to the, the rollout of the redesign, so we saw.org got a redesign and then slash news got it.
Jason Cosper:[01:03:46]
Yeah, I, I was gonna say, I was gonna say my, my spicy take is I think that Matt is used to having a thousand some odd employees that he can direct at a problem and get it fixed and get it done and, uh, you know, redesigned. Whereas because the project is on a contributor and volunteer basis, um, things have just gotta be a little slower, like right. I, I, I just, I think that. , I understand, uh, why He probably just wants to see the whole thing redesigned and hell, if he wants to, uh, sync some of that, the, the employee resources that he has over at Automatic into this to, uh, to help push that along, uh, please do so. Um, but, uh, I mean, unless you’re, you’re gonna pony up then, uh,
Jason Tucker:[01:05:07]
Since, since we’re going into a little bit of an overtime here, real quick, uh, I did wanna bring up something here. So, um, in the chat, uh, nomad Skateboarding was talking about how um, Michelle is doing a selfie hashtag and I wanted to bring that up real quick here and show you folks cuz it was, um, It was a pretty, it was a pretty epic like, kind of way of, of making, making things happen.
Courtney Robertson:[01:06:05]
it was matched. She received, someone matched it too. Yeah.
Jason Tucker:[01:06:08]
so cool.
Courtney Robertson:[01:06:09]
was amazing. Yep,
Jason Tucker:[01:06:11]
So cool.
Courtney Robertson:[01:06:12]
yep.
Nyasha G:[01:06:12]
She is the best.
Jason Tucker:[01:06:15]
That is, it is the power of community. It’s so cool.
Courtney Robertson:[01:06:19]
Okay. I’m showing off the swag real quick while we’re going to outros. I think here there’s some stickers. NA’s got wpu. I got a little postcard, another postcard. There’s the, this is a pin staff here? Yes. That
Nyasha G:[01:06:40]
Wigan Wigans.
Courtney Robertson:[01:06:42]
there’s the scarf, that’s the scar. Group of wuss when we have like, you know, a whole flock. It’s not a flock of wuss. I don’t know what it’s, I know, yeah,
Jason Tucker:[01:06:56]
Oh man.
Nyasha G:[01:06:58]
Wigans. Wigans. I
Courtney Robertson:[01:06:59]
that was official swag. I’ve got more.
Jason Tucker:[01:07:03]
That’s it.
Courtney Robertson:[01:07:04]
That was official swag. I’ve got more, but we don’t need it today.
Jason Tucker:[01:07:08]
Yay. Yes. Yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[01:07:42]
L. Less jet lag involved and germs, less germs. That too.
Jason Tucker:[01:07:49]
Well, yeah, like SA said, thank you very much for coming, hanging out with us. We really appreciate it. For, uh, the folks at home that are watching, uh, click the little share button. The little like button. We’d really appreciate it. We, we’d love to have more folks come hanging out with us. Nah, we’re not smashing.
Sé Reed:[01:08:27]
Hit it. Hit it.
Jason Tucker:[01:08:36]
This is episode number 446 of W WPwatercooler Word Camp Asia brings the heat. I’m Jason Tucker. You find me at Jason Tucker dot blog. Feel free to go over there and take a look at that.
Sé Reed:[01:08:55]
I’m say Reid. Uh, my business is@carin.com. That’s a fun one. I’m say Reid Media on all the
Jason Cosper:[01:09:01]
And y’all who it’s Jason, the large language model, back at it again, WordPress.
Jason Tucker:[01:09:09]
Speaking of those podcasts, go listen to us. Go over Apple Podcasts, audible, wherever it is. You can find them and you can go hang out with us over on Discord.
Sé Reed:[01:09:17]
We’re the chat og. I just thought of
Jason Tucker:[01:09:23]
it going folks?
Sé Reed:[01:09:24]
Wait, what happened to being the large language model
Jason Cosper:[01:09:29]
I mean, I’m, I, am I things I contain multitudes.
Sé Reed:[01:09:35]
Like, it’s wild. Um, anyway, now that we know whoever that guy is, we have guests today. Um, now have you been on the show?
Nyasha G:[01:09:44]
No, this is my first time.
Jason Cosper:[01:09:46]
What
Sé Reed:[01:09:46]
so funny. I, uh, I just, you’re just in my life now, so I’m just like, oh, you know, you’ve been here, right? Uh uh, please introduce yourself. Welcome.
Nyasha G:[01:09:57]
Hello. Hello, I am Naisha. I am the editorial director at Master W P, and I am a software developer or WordPress developer at Howard Development and Consultant. And nice to meet y’all.
Jason Tucker:[01:10:09]
Yay.
Sé Reed:[01:10:11]
And then we have, wait, the illustrious, Courtney,
Courtney Robertson:[01:10:17]
Hey, so yeah, I’m averaging hanging out with WPwatercooler, like one in three episodes. I don’t know, I’m, I could be a good substitute, per se, something.
Sé Reed:[01:10:26]
always angling for a job here.
Courtney Robertson:[01:10:27]
I know, I gotta try.
Jason Tucker:[01:10:29]
Sorry, say that again.
Courtney Robertson:[01:10:30]
uh oh. Oh, hey. So So, um, I, I get to do some amazing things with the wonderful say Reid. Over at the W P ccc, we are working on funding contributors.
Nyasha G:[01:12:17]
I, I’ve been to a lot of tech conferences, but I haven’t been to a lot of work camps, so Yeah. Yeah. Work camp US was my first one. Um, but I have been to a lot of different tech conferences. That was the best tech conference I’ve ever been to. Um, I, I hate to say like it’s the best work camp cause I’ve only been to us.
Jason Tucker:[01:12:52]
That’s awesome.
Courtney Robertson:[01:12:54]
So I had the honor of going and I say honor because I’ve contributed on various WordPress make teams, the 21 teams that make WordPress. I’ve contributed with some people that are now very close personal friends of mine for going on three years, you know, since the beginning of pandemic when I started contributing again.
Nyasha G:[01:14:42]
I tried. I tried a little bit,
Courtney Robertson:[01:14:44]
yeah, yeah.
Jason Tucker:[01:14:46]
It’s party central.
Courtney Robertson:[01:14:50]
Uh,
Nyasha G:[01:14:51]
I like
Courtney Robertson:[01:14:52]
word camp every day, attire. Yeah. Yeah,
Nyasha G:[01:14:56]
the, like the dashiki, west African print. Like with the top. Yeah. It was really nice. I looked good. Not just letting you
Courtney Robertson:[01:15:03]
it was, I got to sip and I for a little bit. It was great.
Nyasha G:[01:15:11]
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Robertson:[01:15:13]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[01:15:14]
that’s smart.
Courtney Robertson:[01:15:16]
Yeah. So then, then a lot of the typical cultural dances that you would see at general celebrations within their home nations, they were all doing during the after party dance party. And I tell you that the Asian folks know how to. Group dance, I think better than any of the other after party camps.
Jason Tucker:[01:15:55]
That’s smart.
Nyasha G:[01:16:17]
send it to you. I have it on my Instagram. Yeah. I have a video on my Instagram.
Courtney Robertson:[01:16:21]
Robbie McCullough also has a couple good videos that he posted on his Twitter account. Robbie is with Beaver Builder, one of the.
Nyasha G:[01:18:00]
you wanna go first?
Courtney Robertson:[01:18:02]
No,
Nyasha G:[01:18:02]
I can go. I didn’t know.
Courtney Robertson:[01:18:03]
Now you cover it.
Nyasha G:[01:18:06]
Um, I, I did hear a little bit of that. Um, one of the biggest things, well, would it be one or two? Two of the biggest things. Um. Was one once you brought up with about the Visa requirements, but also it was that I was just going on about how while I was there, it’s so wonderful.
Jason Tucker:[01:19:26]
awesome.
Courtney Robertson:[01:19:28]
I got a chance to spend some more time, um, briefly with Naoko and John, who I know both from sitting next to them during the after party in 2015 for work camp us. Um, Naoko is an Aian. John works at Human Made. , both are very active contributors. Sam Delotz John is over in the Docs team. And um, you know, they both just had such pride and I felt such pride from a lot of the local folks there that they got to host the event.
Jason Cosper:[01:22:29]
Yeah. Now, now Courtney, you, you mentioned they, they brought 75 people, so this sounds, uh, quite a bit larger than Word Camp US was for, I, I know that that was kind of a reduced camp size. Like how many people would you say were at Word Camp Asia, uh, Courtney and Naisha, either one. Feel free to take that.
Courtney Robertson:[01:22:51]
So in my, um, Roundup post, NY and I both have. Some recap posts and we’ll, we’ll give links to those things, I
Jason Tucker:[01:22:58]
Links in
Courtney Robertson:[01:22:59]
Um, yeah. But in there, there’s the stats and I think there were little over 17,000 tickets purchased and 1,299 attendees in person. We were missing one to bump it up to 1,300. And Naoko said that that one missing was Matt Soko shared that right from the stage. Oh. Just, just, yeah. Matt was, Matt at the last minute had to come in and join us via Zoom. Um, so we accommodated that. So we would’ve had 1,300 there if Matt had been able to join us in person. So
Jason Cosper:[01:23:40]
Matt, Matt wasn’t the only person that joined y’all through Zoom. I know that for contributor days, there was also kind of a remote component there as well.
Courtney Robertson:[01:23:52]
let’s, yeah. was online workshops. Yeah, so we have these, we have online workshops unlearn, and those are like a meetup with a Zoom. There’s a meetup group with a Zoom, and they show up in most people’s WordPress and dashboards. And that’s how people find out what’s going on. And different people host them different languages, time slots, et cetera.
Jason Tucker:[01:24:31]
the dashboard thing is like a massive thing for even like the local meetups. It was huge. So for having something like that and in a grander scale for this, is it, it’s, it’s, it’s like the perfect way to, to kind of spread the word.
Courtney Robertson:[01:24:46]
Yeah, and I’ll turn it over to say, to share about the rest of the online contributor experience because say was the one I tend to get online. Yeah. So. , there was like seven, seven, m, and eight, and I was sprinting between the two of them, um, opposite sides of the building with bronchitis, uh, because I love helping people with all of this. So I let the both teams get their people onboarded for like set up your accounts and then came back and it was right after lunch that we got into. The marketing team, Yvette and I coordinated together. Yvette works at Yost. We have coordinated for Yo’s versions of contributor days online during the pandemic to start helping the marketing team create the social media content that promotes learn on wordpress.org candles. And that’s something that will help new contributors see what this content is.
Nyasha G:[01:27:14]
Courtney was amazing. Like if you, like, if she didn’t cough, you wouldn’t have known she was sick. Like she was like, yeah, I’m a little sick, but I’m gonna go do this. I’m gonna do that. Hey, how you doing? I wanna do this, I’m gonna do that. I was like, Uhhuh, like she, she is amazing.
Jason Cosper:[01:27:32]
I was, I was gonna say between Courtney, between uh, Michelle Farha, between, uh, these handful of people who are, are just all over the damn place. Like really, uh, you know, shout shoutouts there cuz it’s . Yeah. It’s, it’s a lot of effort and it’s really admirable the amount of effort that, that folks like y’all put in.
Nyasha G:[01:29:39]
I have two. Um, first of all, the speaker where the, the speaker rooms, the speaker setup was incredible. I thought I was at a TED Talk. It was so professional. Everything was so nice. I’m looking at my pictures like, oh my God, I look like I was like watching celebrities or something. And then I saw a drone one time.
Courtney Robertson:[01:30:04]
Yes. Oh.
Nyasha G:[01:30:07]
Oh, wow.
Jason Tucker:[01:30:08]
it. That’s, yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[01:30:10]
I didn’t realize the audio was coming from that.
Nyasha G:[01:30:13]
well it looked cool. It looked cool. Yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[01:30:21]
Yep.
Nyasha G:[01:30:21]
Yeah, it was, no, it’s fun. Like that was amazing. And like I, it’s gonna sound weird, but I felt more into the speeches because I felt like I was in like a really cool place and I felt like important. Like I, they told me to stop saying that at work. They’re like, you are important. But I felt very important and it was just great.
Jason Tucker:[01:31:45]
So speak.
Nyasha G:[01:31:49]
Taiwan.
Jason Tucker:[01:31:50]
Hmm.
Nyasha G:[01:31:51]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[01:31:53]
Wow.
Courtney Robertson:[01:31:54]
Mm-hmm.
Jason Tucker:[01:31:55]
So speaking of non WordPress, parts of the word camp, Wha what about the food? How did that go?
Courtney Robertson:[01:32:08]
I will say Thai restaurants in America tend, tend to be fairly authentic, but the flavor is next level. When you get a pad Thai or ma on curry directly from a restaurant inside of Thailand in Bangkok, the food was just fantastic. I still, because of the, you know, the cold and things. , I still went for American version of heat, not Thai heat.
Nyasha G:[01:33:15]
It was so good. Like that was the be again, I’m, I’m like not being paid to say this, like they didn’t pay me. That was the best conference food I ever had. There was like ro, I had like roasted chicken with like sweets and like rice. Sticky rice and like someone had like duck. And then like the dietary restrictions.
Courtney Robertson:[01:33:54]
easy to live gluten free there to
Nyasha G:[01:33:56]
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it.
Courtney Robertson:[01:34:26]
I am just hot.
Nyasha G:[01:34:28]
like, yeah, I actually brought some spices back with me, so yeah, part two coming soon. Mm-hmm.
Courtney Robertson:[01:34:41]
Yes, I was not.
Nyasha G:[01:34:44]
I was not there, but I watched it online.
Courtney Robertson:[01:35:14]
A little bit later. I don’t remember the person asking the question. I don’t think that was in Milan’s. In Milan’s question. She was asking again about Let’s get contributors funded. And I was thinking WP CCC we’re working on that. Um, but when it came to the, the rollout of the redesign, so we saw.org got a redesign and then slash news got it.
Jason Cosper:[01:38:00]
Yeah, I, I was gonna say, I was gonna say my, my spicy take is I think that Matt is used to having a thousand some odd employees that he can direct at a problem and get it fixed and get it done and, uh, you know, redesigned. Whereas because the project is on a contributor and volunteer basis, um, things have just gotta be a little slower, like right. I, I, I just, I think that. , I understand, uh, why He probably just wants to see the whole thing redesigned and hell, if he wants to, uh, sync some of that, the, the employee resources that he has over at Automatic into this to, uh, to help push that along, uh, please do so. Um, but, uh, I mean, unless you’re, you’re gonna pony up then, uh,
Jason Tucker:[01:39:21]
Since, since we’re going into a little bit of an overtime here, real quick, uh, I did wanna bring up something here. So, um, in the chat, uh, nomad Skateboarding was talking about how um, Michelle is doing a selfie hashtag and I wanted to bring that up real quick here and show you folks cuz it was, um, It was a pretty, it was a pretty epic like, kind of way of, of making, making things happen.
Courtney Robertson:[01:40:19]
it was matched. She received, someone matched it too. Yeah.
Jason Tucker:[01:40:22]
so cool.
Courtney Robertson:[01:40:23]
was amazing. Yep,
Jason Tucker:[01:40:25]
So cool.
Courtney Robertson:[01:40:26]
yep.
Nyasha G:[01:40:26]
She is the best.
Jason Tucker:[01:40:29]
That is, it is the power of community. It’s so cool.
Courtney Robertson:[01:40:33]
Okay. I’m showing off the swag real quick while we’re going to outros. I think here there’s some stickers. NA’s got wpu. I got a little postcard, another postcard. There’s the, this is a pin staff here? Yes. That
Nyasha G:[01:40:54]
Wigan Wigans.
Courtney Robertson:[01:40:56]
there’s the scarf, that’s the scar. Group of wuss when we have like, you know, a whole flock. It’s not a flock of wuss. I don’t know what it’s, I know, yeah,
Jason Tucker:[01:41:10]
Oh man.
Nyasha G:[01:41:12]
Wigans. Wigans. I
Courtney Robertson:[01:41:13]
that was official swag. I’ve got more.
Jason Tucker:[01:41:17]
That’s it.
Courtney Robertson:[01:41:18]
That was official swag. I’ve got more, but we don’t need it today.
Jason Tucker:[01:41:22]
Yay. Yes. Yeah.
Courtney Robertson:[01:41:56]
L. Less jet lag involved and germs, less germs. That too.
Jason Tucker:[01:42:03]
Well, yeah, like SA said, thank you very much for coming, hanging out with us. We really appreciate it. For, uh, the folks at home that are watching, uh, click the little share button. The little like button. We’d really appreciate it. We, we’d love to have more folks come hanging out with us. Nah, we’re not smashing.
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